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How can we be sure there's no fate - Part II?
This was asked yesterday and before I could complete an answer, the question was marked resolved. So I wanted to open it back up to see if anyone had any other thoughts on this topic. Here is my original response:

Great question. My first response is that we cannot be sure of anything especially fate since this refers to events that (within our own realm of perception) have not yet come to pass.

But what is fate*?
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Fate may refer to:
Destiny (an inevitable course of events)
Destiny refers to a predetermined course of events. It may be conceived as a predetermined future, whether in general or of an individual. It is a concept based on the belief that there is a fixed natural order to the cosmos.

Fatalism (a philosophical doctrine)
Fatalism - While the terms are often used interchangeably, fatalism, determinism, and predestination are discrete in emphasizing different aspects of the futility of human will or the foreordination of destiny.

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Hmmm, "fultility of human will"…. Perhaps there are many levels or layers to this concept of fate. I can imagine a series of cosmic nesting dolls that contain a fate within a destiny within a predestination all the way down to how an atom works in your body.

Which layer are we in, in relation to this template called fate?

I would assume we are in all layers at the same time which consequently breaks fate down into infinitely smaller and smaller layers (or larger and larger layers depending on your direction of query).

Is there still fate when you are at the atomic level and you ask is the fate of the world to end 4 billion years from now? Can the atom perceive the outer shells of the cosmic nesting doll from this level? It depends on where you are asking from and what you are asking for.

We all know what the ultimate "fate" of the Earth** is as the sun enters its Red Giant phase billions of years from now. So it can be argued that human will is completely futile at this level. But what about at the level of the next moment?

Will I go get a cup of coffee or finish typing this out?

Perhaps it’s the magnitude of events that make a larger, longer lasting imprint on the fabric of space and time thus creating a form of fate greater than our perception. i.e. what if fate is non linear but more like a pebble dropping in a pond?

I have to believe that at this Earthly level, as thinking humans with a world of choices in each moment, our immediate futures (seconds to years) are manifested through the decisions we make in connection with the infinite, uncontrollable forces of the Universe.

A dynamic, ever changing and uncertain future. Isn’t life exciting?

*What is fate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate
**Fate of Earth: http://www.livescience.com/mysteries/070 406_sun_swell.html

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